Renault 42-70 F or SAME Argon 70?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the SAME Argon 70: hydraulic flow and three-point lift. It is also ahead on forward gears, top speed and drive.
- The SAME Argon 70 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 60% (17.6 L/min / 4.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 14% (350 kg / 772 lb) more three-point lift.
- The SAME Argon 70 suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: 50% (870 kg / 1,918 lb) heavier and four-wheel drive.
- The SAME Argon 70 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 42-70 F | Argon 70 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 46.85 kW (62.83 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 46.9 kW (62.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 42-70 F and the Argon 70. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 42-70 F and the Argon 70. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 29.4 L/min (7.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 47.0 L/min (12.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe SAME Argon 70 has 60% more hydraulic flow (17.6 L/min / 4.6 gpm) than the Renault 42-70 F (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,550 kg (5,622 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 2,900 kg (6,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe SAME Argon 70 has 14% more lift (350 kg / 772 lb) than the Renault 42-70 F (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 1,730 kg (3,814 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 2,600 kg (5,732 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Argon 70 is 50% heavier (870 kg / 1,918 lb) than the Renault 42-70 F (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 42-70 F. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 16 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe SAME Argon 70 has 60% more forward gears (6 gears) than the Renault 42-70 F (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 42-70 F and the Argon 70. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe SAME Argon 70 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Renault 42-70 F (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 540/540E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 42-70 F R7396” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe SAME Argon 70 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 42-70 F is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1984–1986 | 1993–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Argon 70 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Argon 70 has 60% more hydraulic flow (17.6 L/min / 4.6 gpm) than the Renault 42-70 F (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Argon 70 has 14% more lift (350 kg / 772 lb) than the Renault 42-70 F (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Argon 70 is 50% heavier (870 kg / 1,918 lb) than the Renault 42-70 F (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Argon 70 has 60% more forward gears (6 gears) than the Renault 42-70 F (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Argon 70 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Renault 42-70 F (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Argon 70 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 42-70 F is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Argon 70 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources