Renault 385 / R 77 or SAME Minitauro 60?
Which should you choose?
The figures split: the Renault 385 / R 77 is ahead on hydraulic flow; the SAME Minitauro 60 is ahead on three-point lift and drive.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 385 / R 77 | Minitauro 60 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 39.3 kW (52.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | 39.1 kW (52.39 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 385 / R 77 and the Minitauro 60. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 385 / R 77 and the Minitauro 60. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 26.0 L/min (6.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | 21.0 L/min (5.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | AheadThe Renault 385 / R 77 has 24% more hydraulic flow (5.0 L/min / 1.3 gpm) than the SAME Minitauro 60 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,500 kg (3,307 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | 1,960 kg (4,321 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | AheadThe SAME Minitauro 60 has 31% more lift (460 kg / 1,014 lb) than the Renault 385 / R 77 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,590 kg (5,710 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | 1,910 kg (4,211 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 385 / R 77 is 36% heavier (680 kg / 1,499 lb) than the SAME Minitauro 60 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 385 / R 77 and the Minitauro 60. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | 8 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 385 / R 77 and the Minitauro 60. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 385 / R 77 and the Minitauro 60. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 77” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Minitauro 60” | AheadThe SAME Minitauro 60 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 385 / R 77 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1963–1964 | 1972–1978 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Minitauro 60 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault 385 / R 77 has 24% more hydraulic flow (5.0 L/min / 1.3 gpm) than the SAME Minitauro 60 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Minitauro 60 has 31% more lift (460 kg / 1,014 lb) than the Renault 385 / R 77 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 385 / R 77 is 36% heavier (680 kg / 1,499 lb) than the SAME Minitauro 60 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Minitauro 60 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 385 / R 77 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Minitauro 60 is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
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