Porsche-Diesel Master 409 or Porsche-Diesel Master 419?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Master 409 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Master 419 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Porsche-Diesel Master 409 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 13% (2.8 L/min / 0.7 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Master 409 | Master 419 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 36.8 kW (49.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | 36.6 kW (49.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Master 409 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Master 419 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Master 409 and the Master 419. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Master 409 and the Master 419. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 25 L/min (6.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | 22.2 L/min (5.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | AheadThe Porsche-Diesel Master 409 has 13% more hydraulic flow (2.8 L/min / 0.7 gpm) than the Porsche-Diesel Master 419 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,050 kg (2,315 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the Master 419. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,575 kg (5,677 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | 2,100 kg (4,630 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Porsche-Diesel Master 409 is 23% heavier (475 kg / 1,047 lb) than the Porsche-Diesel Master 419 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 3,525 kg (7,771 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Master 409. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 7Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Master 409 and the Master 419. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 19.5 km/h (12.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | 19.4 km/h (12.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | 579/1135 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the Master 419. |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master 409” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Porsche-Diesel Master N419” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1962–1963 | 1960–1963 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Porsche-Diesel Master 409 has 13% more hydraulic flow (2.8 L/min / 0.7 gpm) than the Porsche-Diesel Master 419 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Porsche-Diesel Master 409 is 23% heavier (475 kg / 1,047 lb) than the Porsche-Diesel Master 419 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Master 409 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Master 419 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO speeds.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources