OLIVER 1865 or SAME Drago 120 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the OLIVER 1865: hydraulic flow. It is also ahead on top speed. On features, the SAME Drago 120 (DT) is ahead on PTO speeds and drive.
- The SAME Drago 120 (DT) suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 540 rpm.
- The OLIVER 1865 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 89% (31.0 L/min / 8.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The OLIVER 1865 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 1865 | Drago 120 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 71.9 kW (96.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1865” | 73.5 kW (98.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 1865 and the Drago 120 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 1865 and the Drago 120 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 66.0 L/min (17.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1865” | 35.0 L/min (9.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | AheadThe OLIVER 1865 has 89% more hydraulic flow (31.0 L/min / 8.2 gpm) than the SAME Drago 120 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 4,240 kg (9,348 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 1865. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,686 kg (10,331 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1865” | 4,150 kg (9,149 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The OLIVER 1865 is 13% heavier (536 kg / 1,182 lb) than the SAME Drago 120 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1865 and the Drago 120 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1865” | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 1865 and the Drago 120 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1865” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | AheadThe OLIVER 1865 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SAME Drago 120 (DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1865” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | AheadThe SAME Drago 120 (DT) offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the OLIVER 1865 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1865. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Oliver 1865” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Drago 120” | AheadThe SAME Drago 120 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the OLIVER 1865 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1969–1972 | 1978–1986 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Drago 120 (DT) is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The OLIVER 1865 has 89% more hydraulic flow (31.0 L/min / 8.2 gpm) than the SAME Drago 120 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The OLIVER 1865 is 13% heavier (536 kg / 1,182 lb) than the SAME Drago 120 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The OLIVER 1865 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SAME Drago 120 (DT) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Drago 120 (DT) offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the OLIVER 1865 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Drago 120 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the OLIVER 1865 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Drago 120 (DT) is newer: production began 9 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources