Massey Ferguson MF 6485 A or Renault Ares 816 RZ?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the MF 6485 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 816 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ suits road haulage better on this data: 27% (2,530 kg / 5,578 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 6485 A | Ares 816 RZ | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 114.1 kW (153.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 114.8 kW (153.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 6485 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 816 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 6485 A and the Ares 816 RZ. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 6485 A and the Ares 816 RZ. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the MF 6485 A and the Ares 816 RZ. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 8,110 kg (17,879 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 11,560 kg (25,485 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the MF 6485 A: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485”); the Ares 816 RZ: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,123 kg (13,499 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 7,300 kg (16,094 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 816 RZ is 19% heavier (1,177 kg / 2,595 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 6485A (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 9,250 kg (20,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 11,780 kg (25,970 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | AheadThe Renault Ares 816 RZ has 27% higher maximum permissible mass (2,530 kg / 5,578 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 6485A (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 24 to 32Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 32Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 6485 A and the Ares 816 RZ. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph) to 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 540/1000 rpmOECD test report 2108, 2004 | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ”; OECD test report 2108, 2004 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2003–2012 | 2001–2005 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ is 19% heavier (1,177 kg / 2,595 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 6485A (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 816 RZ has 27% higher maximum permissible mass (2,530 kg / 5,578 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 6485A (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 6485 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 816 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the MF 6485 A: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 6485”); the Ares 816 RZ: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 816 RZ”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources