Massey Ferguson MF 1104 or Renault 103-12 RS?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Renault 103-12 RS: hydraulic flow and three-point lift. On features, the Massey Ferguson MF 1104 is ahead on drive.
- The Renault 103-12 RS suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 28% (9.4 L/min / 2.5 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 52% (1,730 kg / 3,814 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 1104 | 103-12 RS | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 62.6 kW (83.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 62.5 kW (83.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 1104 and the 103-12 RS. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 1104 and the 103-12 RS. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 33.2 L/min (8.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 42.6 L/min (11.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | AheadThe Renault 103-12 RS has 28% more hydraulic flow (9.4 L/min / 2.5 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson MF 1104 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,340 kg (7,363 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 5,070 kg (11,177 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | AheadThe Renault 103-12 RS has 52% more lift (1,730 kg / 3,814 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 1104 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,430 kg (7,562 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 4,050 kg (8,929 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 103-12 RS is 18% heavier (620 kg / 1,367 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 1104 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the MF 1104 and the 103-12 RS. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 1104 and the 103-12 RS. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1104” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 103-12 RE/RS R7821” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson MF 1104 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 103-12 RS is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1973–1983 | 1984–1986 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 103-12 RS is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault 103-12 RS has 28% more hydraulic flow (9.4 L/min / 2.5 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson MF 1104 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 103-12 RS has 52% more lift (1,730 kg / 3,814 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 1104 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 103-12 RS is 18% heavier (620 kg / 1,367 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 1104 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson MF 1104 is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 103-12 RS is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Renault 103-12 RS is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources