Massey Ferguson MF 1085 or SAME Laser 90 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the MF 1085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 160% (42.5 L/min / 11.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 69% (1,926 kg / 4,246 lb) more three-point lift.
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: four-wheel drive.
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 1085 | Laser 90 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 64.7 kW (86.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | 64.7 kW (86.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 1085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 1085 and the Laser 90 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 1085 and the Laser 90 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 26.5 L/min (7.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | 69.0 L/min (18.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 160% more hydraulic flow (42.5 L/min / 11.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,800 kg (6,173 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | 4,726 kg (10,419 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 69% more lift (1,926 kg / 4,246 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,851 kg (8,490 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | 3,860 kg (8,510 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 6,000 kg (13,228 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Laser 90 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | 20 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 67% more forward gears (8 gears) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 1085. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T” | AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Massey Ferguson 1085 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1973–1978 | 1985–1991 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Laser 90 (DT) is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 160% more hydraulic flow (42.5 L/min / 11.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 69% more lift (1,926 kg / 4,246 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 67% more forward gears (8 gears) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Massey Ferguson 1085 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Laser 90 (DT) is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 1085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources