Massey Ferguson MF 1085 or SAME Laser 90 (DT)?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the MF 1085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 160% (42.5 L/min / 11.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 69% (1,926 kg / 4,246 lb) more three-point lift.
  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: four-wheel drive.
  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for Massey Ferguson MF 1085 and SAME Laser 90 (DT), with the call on each
QuestionMF 1085Laser 90 (DT)Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?64.7 kW (86.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”64.7 kW (86.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 1085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 1085 and the Laser 90 (DT).
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 1085 and the Laser 90 (DT).
Which pumps more oil for implements?26.5 L/min (7.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”69.0 L/min (18.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 160% more hydraulic flow (42.5 L/min / 11.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?2,800 kg (6,173 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”4,726 kg (10,419 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 69% more lift (1,926 kg / 4,246 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
Which is heavier, for traction?3,851 kg (8,490 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”3,860 kg (8,510 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which may carry more ballast and load?6,000 kg (13,228 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”—No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Laser 90 (DT).
Which has the wider choice of gears?8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”20 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 67% more forward gears (8 gears) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
Which offers a creeper range?—YesTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 1085.
Which is faster on the road?25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
Which drives on both axles?2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 1085”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Laser 90 T”AheadThe SAME Laser 90 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Massey Ferguson 1085 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
Which is newer, and what about parts?1973–19781985–1991Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Laser 90 (DT) is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 160% more hydraulic flow (42.5 L/min / 11.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 69% more lift (1,926 kg / 4,246 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 67% more forward gears (8 gears) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Massey Ferguson 1085 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Massey Ferguson 1085 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
  • The SAME Laser 90 (DT) is newer: production began 12 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
  • Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 1085 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Laser 90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources