Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A or SAME Titan 190?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the SAME Titan 190: hydraulic flow, three-point lift and maximum permissible mass.
- The SAME Titan 190 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 16% (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 52% (2,960 kg / 6,526 lb) more three-point lift.
- The SAME Titan 190 suits road haulage better on this data: 11% (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 8160 A | Titan 190 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 133.2 kW (178.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 132.9 kW (178.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 8160 A and the Titan 190. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 8160 A and the Titan 190. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 53.3 L/min (14.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 61.8 L/min (16.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe SAME Titan 190 has 16% more hydraulic flow (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 5,640 kg (12,434 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 8,600 kg (18,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe SAME Titan 190 has 52% more lift (2,960 kg / 6,526 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,720 kg (14,815 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 6,510 kg (14,352 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 9,000 kg (19,842 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 10,000 kg (22,046 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe SAME Titan 190 has 11% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 30 to 32Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 27Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 8160 A and the Titan 190. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Titan 190. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1995–1999 | 1992–2001 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Titan 190 has 16% more hydraulic flow (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Titan 190 has 52% more lift (2,960 kg / 6,526 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Titan 190 has 11% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources