Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A or Renault Ares 836 RZ?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Renault Ares 836 RZ: three-point lift and maximum permissible mass.
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 105% (5,920 kg / 13,051 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ suits road haulage better on this data: 33% (3,000 kg / 6,614 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 8160 A | Ares 836 RZ | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 133.2 kW (178.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 132.9 kW (178.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 8160 A and the Ares 836 RZ. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 8160 A and the Ares 836 RZ. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 53.3 L/min (14.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Ares 836 RZ. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 5,640 kg (12,434 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 11,560 kg (25,485 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | AheadThe Renault Ares 836 RZ has 105% more lift (5,920 kg / 13,051 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,720 kg (14,815 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 8,150 kg (17,968 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 836 RZ is 21% heavier (1,430 kg / 3,153 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 9,000 kg (19,842 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 12,000 kg (26,455 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | AheadThe Renault Ares 836 RZ has 33% higher maximum permissible mass (3,000 kg / 6,614 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 30 to 32Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 32Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 8160 A and the Ares 836 RZ. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 540/1000 rpmOECD test report 2109, 2004 | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8160” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 836 RZ”; OECD test report 2109, 2004 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1995–1999 | 2001–2005 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 836 RZ is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ has 105% more lift (5,920 kg / 13,051 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ is 21% heavier (1,430 kg / 3,153 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ has 33% higher maximum permissible mass (3,000 kg / 6,614 lb) than the Massey Ferguson MF 8160 A (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 836 RZ is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources