Massey Ferguson MF 7485 or SAME Titan 165?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the MF 7485 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Massey Ferguson 7485 suits road haulage better on this data: 41% (3,500 kg / 7,716 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 7485 | Titan 165 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 121.4 kW (162.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | 120.6 kW (161.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 7485 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 7485 and the Titan 165. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 7485 and the Titan 165. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 122.0 L/min (32.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Titan 165. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 8,600 kg (18,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the MF 7485. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,870 kg (15,146 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | 5,830 kg (12,853 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 7485 is 18% heavier (1,040 kg / 2,293 lb) than the SAME Titan 165 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 12,000 kg (26,455 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | 8,500 kg (18,739 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 7485 has 41% higher maximum permissible mass (3,500 kg / 7,716 lb) than the SAME Titan 165 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | 26 to 27 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the Massey Ferguson 7485 is stepless (CVT) and the SAME Titan 165 has 26 to 27 forward gears — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 7485 and the Titan 165. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph) to 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 7485” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2004–2012 | 1998–2001 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 7485 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Massey Ferguson 7485 is 18% heavier (1,040 kg / 2,293 lb) than the SAME Titan 165 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 7485 has 41% higher maximum permissible mass (3,500 kg / 7,716 lb) than the SAME Titan 165 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 7485 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the Massey Ferguson 7485 is stepless (CVT) and the SAME Titan 165 has 26 to 27 forward gears — not called.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 7485 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, three-point lift and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources