Massey Ferguson MF 5470 (A) or Renault Ares 656 RZ?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the MF 5470 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 656 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault Ares 656 RZ suits road haulage better on this data: 10% (850 kg / 1,874 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | MF 5470 (A) | Ares 656 RZ | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 92 kW (123 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | 92 kW (123 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 5470 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 656 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the MF 5470 (A) and the Ares 656 RZ. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the MF 5470 (A) and the Ares 656 RZ. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 99.0 L/min (26.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Ares 656 RZ. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 8,640 kg (19,048 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the MF 5470 (A). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,420 kg (9,744 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | 5,995 kg (13,217 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ares 656 RZ is 36% heavier (1,575 kg / 3,472 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 5470 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 8,400 kg (18,519 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | 9,250 kg (20,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | AheadThe Renault Ares 656 RZ has 10% higher maximum permissible mass (850 kg / 1,874 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 5470 (A) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 16Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | 32Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | AheadThe Renault Ares 656 RZ has 100% more forward gears (16 gears) than the Massey Ferguson 5470 (A) (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 5470 (A) and the Ares 656 RZ. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | 540/1000/540E/1000E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the MF 5470 (A). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 5470” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ares 656 RZ”; OECD test report 2107, 2004 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2006–2012 | 2002–2005 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ares 656 RZ is 36% heavier (1,575 kg / 3,472 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 5470 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 656 RZ has 10% higher maximum permissible mass (850 kg / 1,874 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 5470 (A) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ares 656 RZ has 100% more forward gears (16 gears) than the Massey Ferguson 5470 (A) (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the MF 5470 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ares 656 RZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, three-point lift, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources