Landini 165 DT or SAME Titan 160?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 165 DT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Landini 165 DT suits road haulage better on this data: 62% (5,300 kg / 11,684 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 165 DT | Titan 160 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 117.7 kW (157.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 116.9 kW (156.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 165 DT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 165 DT and the Titan 160. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 165 DT and the Titan 160. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 61.5 L/min (16.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 57.5 L/min (15.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 8,400 kg (18,519 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 5,085 kg (11,211 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 165 DT: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165”); the Titan 160: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 5,880 kg (12,963 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 6,155 kg (13,569 lb) to 6,470 kg (14,264 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 13,800 kg (30,424 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 8,500 kg (18,739 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | AheadThe Landini 165 DT has 62% higher maximum permissible mass (5,300 kg / 11,684 lb) than the SAME Titan 160 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 36 to 72Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 27Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | AheadThe Landini 165 DT has 33% more forward gears (9 gears) than the SAME Titan 160 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 165 DT and the Titan 160. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1997–2001 | 1991–1998 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Landini 165 DT is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Landini 165 DT has 62% higher maximum permissible mass (5,300 kg / 11,684 lb) than the SAME Titan 160 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Landini 165 DT has 33% more forward gears (9 gears) than the SAME Titan 160 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Landini 165 DT is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 165 DT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 165 DT: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Landini Legend 165”); the Titan 160: lift through the full range 610 mm behind the ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 160”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources