Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) or URSUS 912 / 914?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 912 / 914 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The URSUS 912 / 914 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 27% (9.7 L/min / 2.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 98% (1,936 kg / 4,268 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) suits road haulage better on this data: 15% (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) | 912 / 914 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 58.8 kW (78.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 58.8 kW (78.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 912 / 914 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 912 / 914. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 912 / 914. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 35.3 L/min (9.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 45.0 L/min (11.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | AheadThe URSUS 912 / 914 has 27% more hydraulic flow (9.7 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,970 kg (4,343 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 3,906 kg (8,611 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | AheadThe URSUS 912 / 914 has 98% more lift (1,936 kg / 4,268 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,920 kg (6,437 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 4,025 kg (8,874 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The URSUS 912 / 914 is 38% heavier (1,105 kg / 2,436 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 912 / 914. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 16Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 912 / 914. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 26 km/h (16.2 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | AheadThe Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has 15% more top speed (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) than the URSUS 912 / 914 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) and the 912 / 914. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8860” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 912/914” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1988–2000 | 1984–1998 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The URSUS 912 / 914 has 27% more hydraulic flow (9.7 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The URSUS 912 / 914 has 98% more lift (1,936 kg / 4,268 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The URSUS 912 / 914 is 38% heavier (1,105 kg / 2,436 lb) than the Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Landini R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has 15% more top speed (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) than the URSUS 912 / 914 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-8860 (DT) TL-23 N/M (TL-23 DT/M) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 912 / 914 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources