Landini 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) or Renault Ceres 85 (A)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Renault Ceres 85 (A): hydraulic flow and three-point lift.
- The Renault Ceres 85 (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 28% (10.0 L/min / 2.6 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 28% (825 kg / 1,819 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) | Ceres 85 (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 50.4 kW (67.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 50.7 kW (68.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) and the Ceres 85 (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) and the Ceres 85 (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 35.3 L/min (9.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 45.3 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 85 (A) has 28% more hydraulic flow (10.0 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the Landini 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,000 kg (6,614 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 3,825 kg (8,433 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 85 (A) has 28% more lift (825 kg / 1,819 lb) than the Landini 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,820 kg (6,217 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 3,285 kg (7,242 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 85 (A) is 16% heavier (465 kg / 1,025 lb) than the Landini 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 6,000 kg (13,228 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 9 to 10Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) and the Ceres 85 (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8830 (DT)” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1983–1987 | 1993–1995 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 85 (A) is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ceres 85 (A) has 28% more hydraulic flow (10.0 L/min / 2.6 gpm) than the Landini 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 (A) has 28% more lift (825 kg / 1,819 lb) than the Landini 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 (A) is 16% heavier (465 kg / 1,025 lb) than the Landini 8830 (DT) TL-23 N/E (TL-23 DT/F) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 (A) is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources