Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" or SAME Ariete (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ariete (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The SAME Ariete (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 13% (270 kg / 595 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" | Ariete (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 58.8 kW (78.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | 58.3 kW (78.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ariete (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" and the Ariete (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" and the Ariete (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 26.7 L/min (7.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | 28.0 L/min (7.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,130 kg (4,696 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | 2,400 kg (5,291 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | AheadThe SAME Ariete (DT) has 13% more lift (270 kg / 595 lb) than the Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,610 kg (5,754 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | 3,240 kg (7,143 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Ariete (DT) is 24% heavier (630 kg / 1,389 lb) than the Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" and the Ariete (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | 8 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" and the Ariete (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | AheadThe Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Ariete (DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" and the Ariete (DT). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 8500” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Ariete 480” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1973–1983 | 1963–1973 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Ariete (DT) has 13% more lift (270 kg / 595 lb) than the Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Ariete (DT) is 24% heavier (630 kg / 1,389 lb) than the Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Ariete (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Landini R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-8500 (DT) "TL 23 N/A" has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ariete (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources