Lamborghini R-1706 DT or SAME Titan 165?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the R-1706 DT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | R-1706 DT | Titan 165 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 121.4 kW (162.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | 120.6 kW (161.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-1706 DT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the R-1706 DT and the Titan 165. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the R-1706 DT and the Titan 165. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 64.0 L/min (16.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Titan 165. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 8,600 kg (18,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the R-1706 DT. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 5,800 kg (12,787 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | 5,830 kg (12,853 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 8,500 kg (18,739 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the R-1706 DT. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 24 to 27Traktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | 26 to 27Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the R-1706 DT and the Titan 165. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | AheadThe SAME Titan 165 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the Lamborghini R-1706 DT does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Lamborghini 1706 DT” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 165” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1983–1994 | 1998–2001 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Titan 165 is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Titan 165 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the Lamborghini R-1706 DT does not (as stated by the sources).
- The SAME Titan 165 is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the R-1706 DT has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Titan 165 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources