Kramer KL 400 or SAME DA 38 (DT)?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the KL 400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the DA 38 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The Kramer KL 400 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 74% (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for Kramer KL 400 and SAME DA 38 (DT), with the call on each
QuestionKL 400DA 38 (DT)Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?27.8 kW (37.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”27.9 kW (37.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the KL 400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the DA 38 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT).
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT).
Which pumps more oil for implements?20.0 L/min (5.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”11.5 L/min (3.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)”AheadThe Kramer KL 400 has 74% more hydraulic flow (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?1,250 kg (2,756 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”—No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the DA 38 (DT).
Which is heavier, for traction?1,790 kg (3,946 lb) to 1,950 kg (4,299 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”2,180 kg (4,806 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME DA 38 (DT) is 12% heavier (230 kg / 507 lb) than the Kramer KL 400 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?2,500 kg (5,512 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”—No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the DA 38 (DT).
Which has the wider choice of gears?10Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”5Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)”AheadThe Kramer KL 400 has 100% more forward gears (5 gears) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
Which offers a creeper range?——No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT).
Which is faster on the road?20.0 km/h (12.4 mph) to 27.4 km/h (17.0 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers more PTO speeds?585 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”585 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)”No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”—No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the DA 38 (DT).
Which drives on both axles?2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400”2WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)”EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1960–19671952–1957Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Kramer KL 400 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The Kramer KL 400 has 74% more hydraulic flow (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME DA 38 (DT) is 12% heavier (230 kg / 507 lb) than the Kramer KL 400 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The Kramer KL 400 has 100% more forward gears (5 gears) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
  • The Kramer KL 400 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the KL 400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the DA 38 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources