Kramer KL 400 or SAME DA 38 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the KL 400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the DA 38 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Kramer KL 400 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 74% (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | KL 400 | DA 38 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 27.8 kW (37.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | 27.9 kW (37.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the KL 400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the DA 38 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 20.0 L/min (5.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | 11.5 L/min (3.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)” | AheadThe Kramer KL 400 has 74% more hydraulic flow (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,250 kg (2,756 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the DA 38 (DT). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 1,790 kg (3,946 lb) to 1,950 kg (4,299 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | 2,180 kg (4,806 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME DA 38 (DT) is 12% heavier (230 kg / 507 lb) than the Kramer KL 400 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 2,500 kg (5,512 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the DA 38 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | 5Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)” | AheadThe Kramer KL 400 has 100% more forward gears (5 gears) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20.0 km/h (12.4 mph) to 27.4 km/h (17.0 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 585 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | 585 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)” | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the KL 400 and the DA 38 (DT). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the DA 38 (DT). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer KL 400” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME DA 38 (DT)” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1960–1967 | 1952–1957 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Kramer KL 400 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Kramer KL 400 has 74% more hydraulic flow (8.5 L/min / 2.2 gpm) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME DA 38 (DT) is 12% heavier (230 kg / 507 lb) than the Kramer KL 400 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Kramer KL 400 has 100% more forward gears (5 gears) than the SAME DA 38 (DT) (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Kramer KL 400 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the KL 400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the DA 38 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources