John Deere 8960 or New Holland 9684 (Traktorenlexikon)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8960 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 9684 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The New Holland 9684 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 67% (3,670 kg / 8,091 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8960 | 9684 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 272.3 kW (365.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | 264.8 kW (355.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8960 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 9684 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8960 and the 9684. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8960 and the 9684. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 185.5 L/min (49.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 8960. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 5,350 kg (11,795 lb) to 5,500 kg (12,125 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | 9,170 kg (20,216 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684” | AheadThe New Holland 9684 has 67% more lift (3,670 kg / 8,091 lb) than the John Deere 8960 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 15,925 kg (35,109 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | 13,968 kg (30,794 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The John Deere 8960 is 14% heavier (1,957 kg / 4,314 lb) than the New Holland 9684 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8960 and the 9684. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | 12Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8960 and the 9684. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 9684. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8960” | 4WD / 4WD, equal wheelsTraktorenlexikon, “New Holland 9684”; OECD test report 1942, 2000 | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1989–1993 | 2000–2001 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The New Holland 9684 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The New Holland 9684 has 67% more lift (3,670 kg / 8,091 lb) than the John Deere 8960 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 8960 is 14% heavier (1,957 kg / 4,314 lb) than the New Holland 9684 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The New Holland 9684 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8960 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 9684 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources