John Deere 8400 or Massey Ferguson MF 8470?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8470 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8400 | MF 8470 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 191.4 kW (256.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | 191.4 kW (256.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8470 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8400 and the MF 8470. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8400 and the MF 8470. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 150.0 L/min (39.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 8400. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,900 kg (10,803 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | 10,707 kg (23,605 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 8400: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400”); the MF 8470: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 8,705 kg (19,191 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | 9,240 kg (20,371 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 14,000 kg (30,865 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | 14,000 kg (30,865 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | EvenEven on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 16 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the John Deere 8400 has 16 forward gears and the Massey Ferguson 8470 is stepless (CVT) — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8400 and the MF 8470. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 38 km/h (23.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph) to 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | 540/1000/540E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 8470 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the John Deere 8400 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1994–1998 | 2004–2008 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 8470 is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Massey Ferguson 8470 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the John Deere 8400 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Massey Ferguson 8470 is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the John Deere 8400 has 16 forward gears and the Massey Ferguson 8470 is stepless (CVT) — not called.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8400 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8470 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 8400: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 8400”); the MF 8470: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8470”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources