John Deere 7800 (A) or URSUS 1734?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 7800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1734 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 7800 (A) | 1734 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 125.1 kW (167.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 125 kW (168 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1734 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 7800 (A) and the 1734. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 7800 (A) and the 1734. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 108.9 L/min (28.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 58.0 L/min (15.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | AheadThe John Deere 7800 (A) has 88% more hydraulic flow (50.9 L/min / 13.4 gpm) than the URSUS 1734 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 5,660 kg (12,478 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 6,966 kg (15,357 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | AheadThe URSUS 1734 has 23% more lift (1,306 kg / 2,879 lb) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,590 kg (14,528 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 5,590 kg (12,324 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The John Deere 7800 (A) is 18% heavier (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the URSUS 1734 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 11,500 kg (25,353 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1734. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 16 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 7800 (A) and the 1734. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 1734” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1992–1997 | 1998–2004 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The URSUS 1734 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The John Deere 7800 (A) has 88% more hydraulic flow (50.9 L/min / 13.4 gpm) than the URSUS 1734 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The URSUS 1734 has 23% more lift (1,306 kg / 2,879 lb) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 7800 (A) is 18% heavier (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the URSUS 1734 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The URSUS 1734 is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1734 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources