John Deere 7800 (A) or New Holland-Fiat G 170?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 7800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the G 170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 15% (16.7 L/min / 4.4 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 27% (1,537 kg / 3,389 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 7800 (A) | G 170 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 125.1 kW (167.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 125.1 kW (167.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the G 170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 7800 (A) and the G 170. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 7800 (A) and the G 170. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 108.9 L/min (28.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 125.6 L/min (33.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | AheadThe New Holland-Fiat G 170 has 15% more hydraulic flow (16.7 L/min / 4.4 gpm) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 5,660 kg (12,478 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 7,197 kg (15,867 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | AheadThe New Holland-Fiat G 170 has 27% more lift (1,537 kg / 3,389 lb) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,590 kg (14,528 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 7,622 kg (16,804 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The New Holland-Fiat G 170 is 16% heavier (1,032 kg / 2,275 lb) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 11,500 kg (25,353 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 11,500 kg (25,353 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 16 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 16 to 18Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 7800 (A) and the G 170. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 7800” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri G170” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1992–1997 | 1993–2003 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 has 15% more hydraulic flow (16.7 L/min / 4.4 gpm) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 has 27% more lift (1,537 kg / 3,389 lb) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The New Holland-Fiat G 170 is 16% heavier (1,032 kg / 2,275 lb) than the John Deere 7800 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 7800 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the G 170 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources