John Deere 510 or Kramer 450 Export?
Which should you choose?
The figures split: the Kramer 450 Export is ahead on hydraulic flow and PTO independence; the John Deere 510 is ahead on maximum permissible mass.
- The Kramer 450 Export suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: an independent PTO.
- The Kramer 450 Export suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 28% (4.4 L/min / 1.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The John Deere 510 suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (670 kg / 1,477 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 510 | 450 Export | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 28.8 kW (38.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 29.4 kW (39 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 510 and the 450 Export. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 510 and the 450 Export. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 15.6 L/min (4.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 20.0 L/min (5.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | AheadThe Kramer 450 Export has 28% more hydraulic flow (4.4 L/min / 1.2 gpm) than the John Deere 510 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 510 and the 450 Export. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,074 kg (4,572 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 1,980 kg (4,365 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 3,320 kg (7,319 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 2,650 kg (5,842 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | AheadThe John Deere 510 has 25% higher maximum permissible mass (670 kg / 1,477 lb) than the Kramer 450 Export (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 510. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20 km/h (12.4 mph) to 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 20 km/h (12.4 mph) to 28 km/h (17.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 585/1090 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 450 Export. |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | liveTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | AheadThe Kramer 450 Export has an independent PTO; the John Deere 510’s is live. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 510” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Kramer 450 Export” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1964–1969 | 1964–1967 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Kramer 450 Export has 28% more hydraulic flow (4.4 L/min / 1.2 gpm) than the John Deere 510 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 510 has 25% higher maximum permissible mass (670 kg / 1,477 lb) than the Kramer 450 Export (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Kramer 450 Export has an independent PTO; the John Deere 510’s is live.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, a creeper range and PTO speeds.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources