John Deere 3120 (A) or SAME Panter (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The figures split: the John Deere 3120 (A) is ahead on hydraulic flow; the SAME Panter (DT) is ahead on three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 3120 (A) | Panter (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 55.2 kW (74.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | 55.8 kW (74.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 3120 (A) and the Panter (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 3120 (A) and the Panter (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 46.9 L/min (12.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | 31.7 L/min (8.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | AheadThe John Deere 3120 (A) has 48% more hydraulic flow (15.2 L/min / 4.0 gpm) than the SAME Panter (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,480 kg (5,467 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | 2,875 kg (6,338 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | AheadThe SAME Panter (DT) has 16% more lift (395 kg / 871 lb) than the John Deere 3120 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,807 kg (8,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | 3,190 kg (7,033 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The John Deere 3120 (A) is 19% heavier (617 kg / 1,360 lb) than the SAME Panter (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 4,500 kg (9,921 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Panter (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 3120 (A) and the Panter (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 3120” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Panther” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1969–1972 | 1973–1977 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The John Deere 3120 (A) has 48% more hydraulic flow (15.2 L/min / 4.0 gpm) than the SAME Panter (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Panter (DT) has 16% more lift (395 kg / 871 lb) than the John Deere 3120 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 3120 (A) is 19% heavier (617 kg / 1,360 lb) than the SAME Panter (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources