John Deere 2300 (A) or SAME Argon 70?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 2300 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Argon 70 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The John Deere 2300 (A) suits road haulage better on this data: 22% (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 2300 (A) | Argon 70 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 51.5 kW (69.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 51.5 kW (69.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 2300 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Argon 70 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 2300 (A) and the Argon 70. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 2300 (A) and the Argon 70. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 40.2 L/min (10.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 47.0 L/min (12.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe SAME Argon 70 has 17% more hydraulic flow (6.8 L/min / 1.8 gpm) than the John Deere 2300 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,030 kg (8,885 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 2,900 kg (6,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe John Deere 2300 (A) has 39% more lift (1,130 kg / 2,491 lb) than the SAME Argon 70 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,260 kg (7,187 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 2,600 kg (5,732 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The John Deere 2300 (A) is 25% heavier (660 kg / 1,455 lb) than the SAME Argon 70 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 5,600 kg (12,346 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe John Deere 2300 (A) has 22% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the SAME Argon 70 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 16 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe SAME Argon 70 has 60% more forward gears (6 gears) than the John Deere 2300 (A) (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 2300 (A) and the Argon 70. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 540/540E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | AheadThe John Deere 2300 (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Argon 70 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2300” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Argon 70” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1993–1996 | 1993–2004 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Argon 70 has 17% more hydraulic flow (6.8 L/min / 1.8 gpm) than the John Deere 2300 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 2300 (A) has 39% more lift (1,130 kg / 2,491 lb) than the SAME Argon 70 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 2300 (A) is 25% heavier (660 kg / 1,455 lb) than the SAME Argon 70 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 2300 (A) has 22% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the SAME Argon 70 (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Argon 70 has 60% more forward gears (6 gears) than the John Deere 2300 (A) (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The John Deere 2300 (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Argon 70 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 2300 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Argon 70 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources