John Deere 2120 (A) or SAME Centauro 70 (DT)?

Which should you choose?

On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the SAME Centauro 70 (DT): hydraulic flow and three-point lift. It is also ahead on PTO speeds.

  • The SAME Centauro 70 (DT) suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 1000 rpm.
  • The SAME Centauro 70 (DT) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 49% (13.9 L/min / 3.7 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 81% (1,660 kg / 3,660 lb) more three-point lift.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for John Deere 2120 (A) and SAME Centauro 70 (DT), with the call on each
Question2120 (A)Centauro 70 (DT)Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?42.5 kW (57.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”42.7 kW (57.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 2120 (A) and the Centauro 70 (DT).
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 2120 (A) and the Centauro 70 (DT).
Which pumps more oil for implements?28.6 L/min (7.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”42.5 L/min (11.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”AheadThe SAME Centauro 70 (DT) has 49% more hydraulic flow (13.9 L/min / 3.7 gpm) than the John Deere 2120 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?2,040 kg (4,497 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”3,700 kg (8,157 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”AheadThe SAME Centauro 70 (DT) has 81% more lift (1,660 kg / 3,660 lb) than the John Deere 2120 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
Which is heavier, for traction?2,887 kg (6,365 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”2,730 kg (6,019 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which may carry more ballast and load?4,500 kg (9,921 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Centauro 70 (DT).
Which has the wider choice of gears?8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 2120 (A) and the Centauro 70 (DT).
Which is faster on the road?20 km/h (12.4 mph) to 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”AheadThe SAME Centauro 70 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the John Deere 2120 (A) does not (as stated by the sources).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
Which drives on both axles?2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere 2120”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Centauro 70 (DT)”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1968–19721981–1987Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Centauro 70 (DT) is newer: production began 13 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The SAME Centauro 70 (DT) has 49% more hydraulic flow (13.9 L/min / 3.7 gpm) than the John Deere 2120 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Centauro 70 (DT) has 81% more lift (1,660 kg / 3,660 lb) than the John Deere 2120 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
  • The SAME Centauro 70 (DT) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the John Deere 2120 (A) does not (as stated by the sources).
  • The SAME Centauro 70 (DT) is newer: production began 13 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
  • Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources