J.I. Case 870 or Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 870 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The J.I. Case 870 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 57% (21.9 L/min / 5.8 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 870 | 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 52.7 kW (70.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | 53 kW (71 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 870 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 870 and the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 870 and the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 60.6 L/min (16.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | 38.7 L/min (10.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | AheadThe J.I. Case 870 has 57% more hydraulic flow (21.9 L/min / 5.8 gpm) than the Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 3,050 kg (6,724 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 870. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 4,175 kg (9,204 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | 2,715 kg (5,986 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The J.I. Case 870 is 54% heavier (1,460 kg / 3,219 lb) than the Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 870 and the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 12Traktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 870 and the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Case 870” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Landini 7830 (DT)” | AheadThe Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) is available with four-wheel drive; the J.I. Case 870 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1969–1973 | 1983–1987 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The J.I. Case 870 has 57% more hydraulic flow (21.9 L/min / 5.8 gpm) than the Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The J.I. Case 870 is 54% heavier (1,460 kg / 3,219 lb) than the Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) is available with four-wheel drive; the J.I. Case 870 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Landini 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 870 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 7830 (DT) TL-20 N/F (TL-20 DT/F) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources