J.I. Case 411 or Renault 385 / R 78?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the J.I. Case 411: hydraulic flow. On features, the Renault 385 / R 78 is ahead on top speed.
- The J.I. Case 411 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 75% (19.4 L/min / 5.1 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Renault 385 / R 78 suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 411 | 385 / R 78 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 38.5 kW (51.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 411” | 39.2 kW (52.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 411 and the 385 / R 78. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 411 and the 385 / R 78. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 45.4 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 411” | 26.0 L/min (6.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | AheadThe J.I. Case 411 has 75% more hydraulic flow (19.4 L/min / 5.1 gpm) than the Renault 385 / R 78 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 1,500 kg (3,307 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 411. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,866 kg (6,318 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 411” | 2,639 kg (5,818 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 411 and the 385 / R 78. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Case 411” | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 411 and the 385 / R 78. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20 km/h (12.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Case 411” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | AheadThe Renault 385 / R 78 has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the J.I. Case 411 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Case 411” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 411 and the 385 / R 78. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Case 411” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 385/R 78” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1955–1957 | 1963–1967 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault 385 / R 78 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The J.I. Case 411 has 75% more hydraulic flow (19.4 L/min / 5.1 gpm) than the Renault 385 / R 78 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 385 / R 78 has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the J.I. Case 411 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Renault 385 / R 78 is newer: production began 8 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources