International Harvester 884 or Renault Ceres 85 X (A)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the Renault Ceres 85 X (A): three-point lift. It is also ahead on top speed.
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 61% (1,449 kg / 3,194 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 884 | Ceres 85 X (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 51.1 kW (68.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | 51.4 kW (68.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 884 and the Ceres 85 X (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 884 and the Ceres 85 X (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 44.6 L/min (11.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Ceres 85 X (A). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,376 kg (5,238 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | 3,825 kg (8,433 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 61% more lift (1,449 kg / 3,194 lb) than the International Harvester 884 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,625 kg (5,787 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | 3,480 kg (7,672 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) is 33% heavier (855 kg / 1,885 lb) than the International Harvester 884 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 884 and the Ceres 85 X (A). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | 18 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 884 and the Ceres 85 X (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the International Harvester 884 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 884. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 884” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 85X” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1979–1981 | 1994–1998 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 61% more lift (1,449 kg / 3,194 lb) than the International Harvester 884 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) is 33% heavier (855 kg / 1,885 lb) than the International Harvester 884 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the International Harvester 884 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 85 X (A) is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources