International Harvester 786 or SOMECA 850 (TD)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, every comparable figure that differs favours the International Harvester 786: hydraulic flow. It is also ahead on top speed.
- The International Harvester 786 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 20% (7.5 L/min / 2.0 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The International Harvester 786 suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 786 | 850 (TD) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 57.8 kW (77.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 786” | 57.1 kW (76.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 786 and the 850 (TD). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 786 and the 850 (TD). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 45.5 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 786” | 38.0 L/min (10.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | AheadThe International Harvester 786 has 20% more hydraulic flow (7.5 L/min / 2.0 gpm) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 2,712 kg (5,979 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 786. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 5,257 kg (11,590 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 786” | 3,195 kg (7,044 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The International Harvester 786 is 65% heavier (2,062 kg / 4,546 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 786 and the 850 (TD). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 786” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 786 and the 850 (TD). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 786” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | AheadThe International Harvester 786 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 786” | — | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 850 (TD). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 786 and the 850 (TD). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 786” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 850” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1980–1981 | 1969–1975 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The International Harvester 786 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The International Harvester 786 has 20% more hydraulic flow (7.5 L/min / 2.0 gpm) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester 786 is 65% heavier (2,062 kg / 4,546 lb) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester 786 has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the SOMECA 850 (TD) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester 786 is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources