International Harvester 784 or SAME Corsaro 70?
Which should you choose?
The figures split: the International Harvester 784 is ahead on hydraulic flow and PTO speeds; the SAME Corsaro 70 is ahead on three-point lift.
- The International Harvester 784 suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 1000 rpm.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “similar machines”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 784 | Corsaro 70 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 45.6 kW (61.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 45.4 kW (60.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 784 and the Corsaro 70. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 784 and the Corsaro 70. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 38.2 L/min (10.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 23.5 L/min (6.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70” | AheadThe International Harvester 784 has 63% more hydraulic flow (14.7 L/min / 3.9 gpm) than the SAME Corsaro 70 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,090 kg (4,608 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 2,765 kg (6,096 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70 DT” | AheadThe SAME Corsaro 70 has 32% more lift (675 kg / 1,488 lb) than the International Harvester 784 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,376 kg (5,238 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 2,680 kg (5,908 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SAME Corsaro 70 is 13% heavier (304 kg / 670 lb) than the International Harvester 784 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 4,700 kg (10,362 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70 DT” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 784. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 8 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 784 and the Corsaro 70. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70” | AheadThe International Harvester 784 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Corsaro 70 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 784. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 784” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70”; Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Corsaro 70 DT” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1977–1981 | 1972–1980 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The International Harvester 784 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The International Harvester 784 has 63% more hydraulic flow (14.7 L/min / 3.9 gpm) than the SAME Corsaro 70 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Corsaro 70 has 32% more lift (675 kg / 1,488 lb) than the International Harvester 784 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Corsaro 70 is 13% heavier (304 kg / 670 lb) than the International Harvester 784 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester 784 offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Corsaro 70 does not (as stated by the sources).
- The International Harvester 784 is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources