International Harvester 656 or SOMECA 650 (TD)?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 656 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 650 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The International Harvester 656 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 58% (16.7 L/min / 4.4 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: four-wheel drive.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for International Harvester 656 and SOMECA 650 (TD), with the call on each
Question656650 (TD)Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?47.8 kW (64.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”47.8 kW (64.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 656 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 650 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 656 and the 650 (TD).
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 656 and the 650 (TD).
Which pumps more oil for implements?45.5 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”28.8 L/min (7.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”AheadThe International Harvester 656 has 58% more hydraulic flow (16.7 L/min / 4.4 gpm) than the SOMECA 650 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?2,080 kg (4,586 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 656.
Which is heavier, for traction?2,630 kg (5,798 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”2,875 kg (6,338 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which may carry more ballast and load?No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 656 and the 650 (TD).
Which has the wider choice of gears?Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”7 to 14 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the International Harvester 656 is stepless (CVT) and the SOMECA 650 (TD) has 7 to 14 forward gears — not called.
Which offers a creeper range?No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 656 and the 650 (TD).
Which is faster on the road?25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 34 km/h (21.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”24 km/h (14.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?dependent (stops with the clutch)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”independentTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”AheadThe SOMECA 650 (TD) has an independent PTO; the International Harvester 656’s is dependent (stops with the clutch).
Which drives on both axles?2WDTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 656”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”AheadThe SOMECA 650 (TD) is available with four-wheel drive; the International Harvester 656 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
Which is newer, and what about parts?1965–19721971–1976Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SOMECA 650 (TD) is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The International Harvester 656 has 58% more hydraulic flow (16.7 L/min / 4.4 gpm) than the SOMECA 650 (TD) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) has an independent PTO; the International Harvester 656’s is dependent (stops with the clutch).
  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) is available with four-wheel drive; the International Harvester 656 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Transmissions differ in kind: the International Harvester 656 is stepless (CVT) and the SOMECA 650 (TD) has 7 to 14 forward gears — not called.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 656 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 650 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources