International Harvester 585 or Massey Ferguson MF 363 (A)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 585 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 363 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Massey Ferguson 363 (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 20% (405 kg / 893 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Massey Ferguson 363 (A) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 585 | MF 363 (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 43.4 kW (58.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 585 (XL)” | 43 kW (58 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 585 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 363 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 585 and the MF 363 (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 585 and the MF 363 (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 585 and the MF 363 (A). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,995 kg (4,398 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 585 (XL)” | 2,400 kg (5,291 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 363 (A) has 20% more lift (405 kg / 893 lb) than the International Harvester 585 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,900 kg (6,393 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 585 (XL)” | 2,400 kg (5,291 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The International Harvester 585 is 21% heavier (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 363 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 585 and the MF 363 (A). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 8 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 585 (XL)” | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 585. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC 585 (XL)” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 363 (A) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the International Harvester 585 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 585 (XL)” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 585 and the MF 363 (A). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “IHC 585 (XL)” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 363” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1981–1990 | 1987–1994 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 363 (A) is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Massey Ferguson 363 (A) has 20% more lift (405 kg / 893 lb) than the International Harvester 585 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester 585 is 21% heavier (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 363 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 363 (A) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the International Harvester 585 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 363 (A) is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 585 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 363 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources