International Harvester Hydro 70 or John Deere 830?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Hydro 70 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 830 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The International Harvester Hydro 70 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 35% (11.8 L/min / 3.1 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The International Harvester Hydro 70 suits road haulage better on this data: 70% (14.0 km/h / 8.7 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Hydro 70 | 830 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 51.5 kW (69.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC Hydro 70” | 51.9 kW (69.6 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Hydro 70 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 830 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Hydro 70 and the 830. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Hydro 70 and the 830. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 45.5 L/min (12.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC Hydro 70” | 33.7 L/min (8.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | AheadThe International Harvester Hydro 70 has 35% more hydraulic flow (11.8 L/min / 3.1 gpm) than the John Deere 830 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the Hydro 70 and the 830. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,828 kg (8,439 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC Hydro 70” | 3,561 kg (7,851 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Hydro 70 and the 830. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC Hydro 70” | 6 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the International Harvester Hydro 70 is stepless (CVT) and the John Deere 830 has 6 forward gears — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Hydro 70 and the 830. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 34 km/h (21.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “IHC Hydro 70” | 20.0 km/h (12.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | AheadThe International Harvester Hydro 70 has 70% more top speed (14.0 km/h / 8.7 mph) than the John Deere 830 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “IHC Hydro 70” | 536 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 830. |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Hydro 70 and the 830. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “IHC Hydro 70” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “John Deere Modell 830” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1973–1976 | 1958–1960 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The International Harvester Hydro 70 is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The International Harvester Hydro 70 has 35% more hydraulic flow (11.8 L/min / 3.1 gpm) than the John Deere 830 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester Hydro 70 has 70% more top speed (14.0 km/h / 8.7 mph) than the John Deere 830 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The International Harvester Hydro 70 is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the International Harvester Hydro 70 is stepless (CVT) and the John Deere 830 has 6 forward gears — not called.
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Hydro 70 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 830 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources