Hürlimann T-5100 (A) or SAME Condor (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the T-5100 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Condor (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Hürlimann T-5100 (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 50% (12.0 L/min / 3.2 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “similar machines”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | T-5100 (A) | Condor (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 38.2 kW (51.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | 38.2 kW (51.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the T-5100 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Condor (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the T-5100 (A) and the Condor (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the T-5100 (A) and the Condor (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 36.0 L/min (9.5 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | 24.0 L/min (6.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | AheadThe Hürlimann T-5100 (A) has 50% more hydraulic flow (12.0 L/min / 3.2 gpm) than the SAME Condor (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,700 kg (3,748 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | 2,000 kg (4,409 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the T-5100 (A): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100”); the Condor (DT): lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,270 kg (5,004 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | 2,020 kg (4,453 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Hürlimann T-5100 (A) is 12% heavier (250 kg / 551 lb) than the SAME Condor (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the T-5100 (A) and the Condor (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 10Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | 8 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the T-5100 (A) and the Condor (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | AheadThe Hürlimann T-5100 (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Condor (DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the T-5100 (A). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1977–1978 | 1978–1982 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Hürlimann T-5100 (A) has 50% more hydraulic flow (12.0 L/min / 3.2 gpm) than the SAME Condor (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Hürlimann T-5100 (A) is 12% heavier (250 kg / 551 lb) than the SAME Condor (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Hürlimann T-5100 (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Condor (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the T-5100 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Condor (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the T-5100 (A): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann T-5100”); the Condor (DT): lift through the full range at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Condor 52 (DT)”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources