Hürlimann H-86 XA or SAME Dorado 85 (DT)?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the H-86 XA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for Hürlimann H-86 XA and SAME Dorado 85 (DT), with the call on each
QuestionH-86 XADorado 85 (DT)Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?61 kW (82 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”61.0 kW (81.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the H-86 XA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?——No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the H-86 XA and the Dorado 85 (DT).
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?——No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the H-86 XA and the Dorado 85 (DT).
Which pumps more oil for implements?48.0 L/min (12.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”—No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Dorado 85 (DT).
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?2,529 kg (5,575 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”3,600 kg (7,937 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the H-86 XA: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”); the Dorado 85 (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
Which is heavier, for traction?3,160 kg (6,967 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”2,660 kg (5,864 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Hürlimann H-86 XA is 19% heavier (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
Which may carry more ballast and load?5,000 kg (11,023 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”5,000 kg (11,023 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”EvenEven on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which has the wider choice of gears?45Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”30 to 45Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?——No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the H-86 XA and the Dorado 85 (DT).
Which is faster on the road?40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”540/540E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”AheadThe Hürlimann H-86 XA offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?—independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the H-86 XA.
Which drives on both axles?4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?2005–2000–2004Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Hürlimann H-86 XA is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The Hürlimann H-86 XA is 19% heavier (500 kg / 1,102 lb) than the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
  • The Hürlimann H-86 XA offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
  • The Hürlimann H-86 XA is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the H-86 XA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • Not comparable on three-point lift: the H-86 XA: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 86”); the Dorado 85 (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, a creeper range and PTO independence.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources