Hürlimann H-658 XA or SAME Dorado 85 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the H-658 XA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | H-658 XA | Dorado 85 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 61 kW (82 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | 61.0 kW (81.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the H-658 XA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the H-658 XA and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the H-658 XA and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 44.5 L/min (11.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | — | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,692 kg (5,935 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | 3,600 kg (7,937 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the H-658 XA: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658”); the Dorado 85 (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,660 kg (5,864 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | 2,660 kg (5,864 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 45Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | 30 to 45Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the H-658 XA and the Dorado 85 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | 540/540E rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | AheadThe Hürlimann H-658 XA offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the H-658 XA. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2000–2004 | 2000–2004 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Hürlimann H-658 XA offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the SAME Dorado 85 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on maximum permissible mass (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the H-658 XA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Dorado 85 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the H-658 XA: lift through the full range at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Hürlimann XA 658”); the Dorado 85 (DT): lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Dorado 85”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources