Ford 8770 or SAME Titan 190?
Which should you choose?
The figures split: the Ford 8770 is ahead on hydraulic flow; the SAME Titan 190 is ahead on three-point lift and PTO speeds.
- The SAME Titan 190 suits PTO-driven implements (mowers, balers, pumps) better on this data: offers 540 rpm.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8770 | Titan 190 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 133.8 kW (179.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 132.9 kW (178.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8770 and the Titan 190. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8770 and the Titan 190. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 126.1 L/min (33.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 61.8 L/min (16.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe Ford 8770 has 104% more hydraulic flow (64.3 L/min / 17.0 gpm) than the SAME Titan 190 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 7,480 kg (16,491 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 8,600 kg (18,960 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe SAME Titan 190 has 15% more lift (1,120 kg / 2,469 lb) than the Ford 8770 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 8,748 kg (19,286 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 6,510 kg (14,352 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Ford 8770 is 34% heavier (2,238 kg / 4,934 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 10,000 kg (22,046 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8770. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 18 to 36Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 27Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8770 and the Titan 190. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | AheadThe SAME Titan 190 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the Ford 8770 does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 8770 and the Titan 190. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 8770” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Titan 190” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1993–1999 | 1992–2001 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Ford 8770 has 104% more hydraulic flow (64.3 L/min / 17.0 gpm) than the SAME Titan 190 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Titan 190 has 15% more lift (1,120 kg / 2,469 lb) than the Ford 8770 (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Ford 8770 is 34% heavier (2,238 kg / 4,934 lb) than the SAME Titan 190 (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Titan 190 offers 540 rpm at the PTO, which the Ford 8770 does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources