Ford 8600 (A) or Renault 1181-4 (S)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 8600 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1181-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault 1181-4 (S) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 63% (2,000 kg / 4,409 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 8600 (A) | 1181-4 (S) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 86.8 kW (116.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | 86.8 kW (116.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8600 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1181-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 8600 (A) and the 1181-4 (S). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 8600 (A) and the 1181-4 (S). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | — | 33.1 L/min (8.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | No figureNo call on hydraulic flow: no figure on record for the 8600 (A). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 3,200 kg (7,055 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | 5,200 kg (11,464 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | AheadThe Renault 1181-4 (S) has 63% more lift (2,000 kg / 4,409 lb) than the Ford 8600 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,000 kg (13,228 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | 5,280 kg (11,640 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Ford 8600 (A) is 14% heavier (720 kg / 1,587 lb) than the Renault 1181-4 (S) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 8600 (A) and the 1181-4 (S). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 8600 (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | — | No figureNo call on top speed: no figure on record for the 1181-4 (S). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1181-4 (S). |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 8600” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 1181-4 R7674” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1972–1976 | 1976–1988 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault 1181-4 (S) has 63% more lift (2,000 kg / 4,409 lb) than the Ford 8600 (A) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Ford 8600 (A) is 14% heavier (720 kg / 1,587 lb) than the Renault 1181-4 (S) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 8600 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 1181-4 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, hydraulic flow, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, top speed and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources