Ford 1700 (A) or Renault Super 3?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 1700 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Super 3 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Ford 1700 (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 97% (14.5 L/min / 3.8 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Renault Super 3 suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 1700 (A) | Super 3 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 18.4 kW (24.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 18.4 kW (24.7 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 1700 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Super 3 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 1700 (A) and the Super 3. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 1700 (A) and the Super 3. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 29.5 L/min (7.8 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 15.0 L/min (4.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | AheadThe Ford 1700 (A) has 97% more hydraulic flow (14.5 L/min / 3.8 gpm) than the Renault Super 3 (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 1,730 kg (3,814 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the Super 3. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 1,110 kg (2,447 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 1,480 kg (3,263 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Super 3 is 33% heavier (370 kg / 816 lb) than the Ford 1700 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 1700 (A) and the Super 3. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 6 to 10Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 1700 (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20 km/h (12.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | AheadThe Renault Super 3 has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Ford 1700 (A) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 1700 (A) and the Super 3. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 1700” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Super 3/R 7052” | AheadThe Ford 1700 (A) is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault Super 3 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1979–1982 | 1964–1965 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Ford 1700 (A) is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Ford 1700 (A) has 97% more hydraulic flow (14.5 L/min / 3.8 gpm) than the Renault Super 3 (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Super 3 is 33% heavier (370 kg / 816 lb) than the Ford 1700 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Super 3 has 25% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Ford 1700 (A) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Ford 1700 (A) is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault Super 3 is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Ford 1700 (A) is newer: production began 15 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 1700 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Super 3 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources