Fiat PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo or URSUS 4512/4514?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 4512/4514 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fiat PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo | 4512/4514 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 48.6 kW (65.2 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 48.5 kW (65.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 4512/4514 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo and the 4512/4514. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo and the 4512/4514. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 32.8 L/min (8.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 33.8 L/min (8.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,260 kg (4,982 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 1,968 kg (4,339 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo”); the 4512/4514: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,920 kg (6,437 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 2,950 kg (6,504 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 4,200 kg (9,259 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 4512/4514. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 8Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | AheadThe Fiat PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the URSUS 4512/4514 (both forward gears, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo and the 4512/4514. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | AheadThe Fiat PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the URSUS 4512/4514 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 4512/4514. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1988–1992 | 1987–2009 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo has 50% more forward gears (4 gears) than the URSUS 4512/4514 (both forward gears, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the URSUS 4512/4514 (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 4512/4514 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the PRIMO 60-66 DT/Turbo: lift 610 mm behind the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 60-66 Turbo/60-66 DT Turbo”); the 4512/4514: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Ursus 4512/4514”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
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