Fiat 80-R or SAME 480 (DT)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 80-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 480 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fiat 80-R suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 248% (28.5 L/min / 7.5 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 80-R | 480 (DT) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 61.8 kW (82.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | 60.3 kW (80.9 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 80-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 480 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 80-R and the 480 (DT). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 80-R and the 480 (DT). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 40.0 L/min (10.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | 11.5 L/min (3.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | AheadThe Fiat 80-R has 248% more hydraulic flow (28.5 L/min / 7.5 gpm) than the SAME 480 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,800 kg (6,173 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | — | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 480 (DT). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,550 kg (7,826 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | 2,700 kg (5,952 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat 80-R is 31% heavier (850 kg / 1,874 lb) than the SAME 480 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 80-R and the 480 (DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 5Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | 5Traktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 80-R and the 480 (DT). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | 690 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | No figureNo call on PTO speeds: no standard PTO speed stated for the 480 (DT). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 80-R. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 80 R” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “SAME 480 DT” | AheadThe SAME 480 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Fiat 80-R is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1961–1967 | 1959–1962 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat 80-R has 248% more hydraulic flow (28.5 L/min / 7.5 gpm) than the SAME 480 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 80-R is 31% heavier (850 kg / 1,874 lb) than the SAME 480 (DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The SAME 480 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Fiat 80-R is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 80-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 480 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range, PTO speeds and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources