Fiat 80-90 (DT) or Renault 851 (S)?
Which should you choose?
On performance, no comparable figure differs by more than its threshold: on this data the machines are level. On features, the Fiat 80-90 (DT) is ahead on top speed and drive.
- The Fiat 80-90 (DT) suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: four-wheel drive.
- The Fiat 80-90 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 20% (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 80-90 (DT) | 851 (S) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 52.6 kW (70.5 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 52.5 kW (70.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | EvenEven on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 80-90 (DT) and the 851 (S). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 80-90 (DT) and the 851 (S). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 35.5 L/min (9.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 33.7 L/min (8.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | — | 3,720 kg (8,201 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | No figureNo call on three-point lift: no figure on record for the 80-90 (DT). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 3,100 kg (6,834 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 3,015 kg (6,647 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 5,300 kg (11,684 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 851 (S). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 12 to 16Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 80-90 (DT) and the 851 (S). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | AheadThe Fiat 80-90 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Renault 851 (S) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 851 (S). |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 80-90/80-90 DT” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 851 R7661” | AheadThe Fiat 80-90 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 851 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1984–1992 | 1974–1989 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat 80-90 (DT) is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat 80-90 (DT) has 20% more top speed (5.0 km/h / 3.1 mph) than the Renault 851 (S) (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 80-90 (DT) is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 851 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- The Fiat 80-90 (DT) is newer: production began 10 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on power at the PTO shaft (both power at the PTO, claimed): the difference is under the 10% threshold for claimed figures, too small to call.
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, three-point lift, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources