Fiat 615 (DT) or SOMECA 650 (TD)?

Which should you choose?

The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 615 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 650 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.

  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 16% (280 kg / 617 lb) more three-point lift.

Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.

What decides it, question by question?

Buyer questions for Fiat 615 (DT) and SOMECA 650 (TD), with the call on each
Question615 (DT)650 (TD)Call
Which puts more power through the PTO shaft?47.8 kW (64.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”47.8 kW (64.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 615 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 650 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft?No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 615 (DT) and the 650 (TD).
Which pulls harder at the drawbar?No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 615 (DT) and the 650 (TD).
Which pumps more oil for implements?26.5 L/min (7.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”28.8 L/min (7.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which lifts more on the three-point hitch?1,800 kg (3,968 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”2,080 kg (4,586 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”AheadThe SOMECA 650 (TD) has 16% more lift (280 kg / 617 lb) than the Fiat 615 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
Which is heavier, for traction?2,720 kg (5,997 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”2,875 kg (6,338 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which may carry more ballast and load?No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 615 (DT) and the 650 (TD).
Which has the wider choice of gears?7 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”7 to 14Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
Which offers a creeper range?No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 615 (DT) and the 650 (TD).
Which is faster on the road?24 km/h (14.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”24 km/h (14.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
Which offers more PTO speeds?540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”AheadThe SOMECA 650 (TD) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 615 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive?independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”independentTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
Which drives on both axles?Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 615/615 DT”Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Someca 650”EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
Which is newer, and what about parts?1965–19681971–1976Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The SOMECA 650 (TD) is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.

What does this mean in plain words?

  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) has 16% more lift (280 kg / 617 lb) than the Fiat 615 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 615 (DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
  • The SOMECA 650 (TD) is newer: production began 6 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
  • Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
  • Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
  • Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
  • Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
  • Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 615 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 650 (TD) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
  • No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.

← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources