Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) or Renault Ceres 70 X (A)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 60-86 F (F/DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ceres 70 X (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Renault Ceres 70 X (A) suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 20% (8.0 L/min / 2.1 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 21% (495 kg / 1,091 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 60-86 F (F/DT) | Ceres 70 X (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 44.1 kW (59.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 44.2 kW (59.3 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 60-86 F (F/DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ceres 70 X (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 60-86 F (F/DT) and the Ceres 70 X (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 60-86 F (F/DT) and the Ceres 70 X (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 40.0 L/min (10.6 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 48.0 L/min (12.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 70 X (A) has 20% more hydraulic flow (8.0 L/min / 2.1 gpm) than the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,375 kg (5,236 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 2,870 kg (6,327 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 70 X (A) has 21% more lift (495 kg / 1,091 lb) than the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 1,907 kg (4,204 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 2,805 kg (6,184 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Renault Ceres 70 X (A) is 47% heavier (898 kg / 1,980 lb) than the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | 5,170 kg (11,398 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 60-86 F (F/DT). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 20Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 9 to 10Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 60-86 F (F/DT) and the Ceres 70 X (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | AheadThe Renault Ceres 70 X (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 60-86 F/60-86 F/DT” | 2WD / 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault Ceres 70X” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1992–2000 | 1992–1995 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Renault Ceres 70 X (A) has 20% more hydraulic flow (8.0 L/min / 2.1 gpm) than the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 70 X (A) has 21% more lift (495 kg / 1,091 lb) than the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 70 X (A) is 47% heavier (898 kg / 1,980 lb) than the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Renault Ceres 70 X (A) offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Fiat 60-86 F (F/DT) does not (as stated by the sources).
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 60-86 F (F/DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Ceres 70 X (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources