Fiat 45-R or Ford 860?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 45-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 860 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fiat 45-R suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 68% (383 kg / 844 lb) more three-point lift.
- The Ford 860 (also listed as 800) suits road haulage better on this data: 25% (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 45-R | 860 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 33.1 kW (44.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 33.1 kW (44.4 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 45-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 860 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 45-R and the 860. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 45-R and the 860. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 20.0 L/min (5.3 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 10.2 L/min (2.7 gpm) to 22.7 L/min (6.0 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | EvenEven on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 950 kg (2,094 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 567 kg (1,250 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | AheadThe Fiat 45-R has 68% more lift (383 kg / 844 lb) than the Ford 860 (also listed as 800) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,300 kg (5,071 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 1,456 kg (3,210 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat 45-R is 58% heavier (844 kg / 1,861 lb) than the Ford 860 (also listed as 800) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | — | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 45-R and the 860. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 6Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 5Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 45-R and the 860. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 16 km/h (9.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 20 km/h (12.4 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | AheadThe Ford 860 (also listed as 800) has 25% more top speed (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) than the Fiat 45-R (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | — | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 860. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 45 R” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Ford 800” | EvenEven on drive: all two-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1952– | 1954–1957 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat 45-R has 68% more lift (383 kg / 844 lb) than the Ford 860 (also listed as 800) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 45-R is 58% heavier (844 kg / 1,861 lb) than the Ford 860 (also listed as 800) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Ford 860 (also listed as 800) has 25% more top speed (4.0 km/h / 2.5 mph) than the Fiat 45-R (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- Even on hydraulic flow (both pump flow, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540 rpm).
- Even on drive: all two-wheel drive.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 45-R has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 860 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources