Fiat 160-90 (DT) or SAME Hercules 160?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 160-90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Hercules 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The SAME Hercules 160 suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 18% (9.2 L/min / 2.4 gpm) more hydraulic flow and 114% (2,854 kg / 6,292 lb) more three-point lift.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 160-90 (DT) | Hercules 160 | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 117.8 kW (158.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 116.9 kW (156.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 160-90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Hercules 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 160-90 (DT) and the Hercules 160. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 160-90 (DT) and the Hercules 160. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 50.8 L/min (13.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 60.0 L/min (15.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | AheadThe SAME Hercules 160 has 18% more hydraulic flow (9.2 L/min / 2.4 gpm) than the Fiat 160-90 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,500 kg (5,512 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 5,354 kg (11,804 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | AheadThe SAME Hercules 160 has 114% more lift (2,854 kg / 6,292 lb) than the Fiat 160-90 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,190 kg (13,647 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 6,150 kg (13,558 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 10,000 kg (22,046 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the Hercules 160. |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 16 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 160-90 (DT) and the Hercules 160. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiatagri 160-90 DT” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “SAME Hercules 160” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1984–1994 | 1979–1983 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat 160-90 (DT) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The SAME Hercules 160 has 18% more hydraulic flow (9.2 L/min / 2.4 gpm) than the Fiat 160-90 (DT) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The SAME Hercules 160 has 114% more lift (2,854 kg / 6,292 lb) than the Fiat 160-90 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 160-90 (DT) is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 160-90 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the Hercules 160 has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources