Fiat 1580 (DT) or Massey Ferguson MF 3655 (A)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 1580 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 3655 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fiat 1580 (DT) suits road haulage better on this data: 11% (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) more maximum permissible mass.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 1580 (DT) | MF 3655 (A) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 114.1 kW (153.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 114.1 kW (153.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 1580 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 3655 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 1580 (DT) and the MF 3655 (A). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 1580 (DT) and the MF 3655 (A). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 55.8 L/min (14.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 50.6 L/min (13.4 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | AheadThe Fiat 1580 (DT) has 10% more hydraulic flow (5.2 L/min / 1.4 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 4,934 kg (10,878 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 6,400 kg (14,110 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) has 30% more lift (1,466 kg / 3,232 lb) than the Fiat 1580 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source). |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,500 kg (14,330 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 5,360 kg (11,817 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fiat 1580 (DT) is 21% heavier (1,140 kg / 2,513 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 10,000 kg (22,046 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 9,000 kg (19,842 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | AheadThe Fiat 1580 (DT) has 11% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 12 to 24Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 16 to 32Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 1580 (DT) and the MF 3655 (A). |
| Which is faster on the road? | 25 km/h (15.5 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | EvenEven on PTO independence: every PTO is independent. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fiat 1580 DT” | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 3655” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1979–1984 | 1990–1995 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fiat 1580 (DT) has 10% more hydraulic flow (5.2 L/min / 1.4 gpm) than the Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) has 30% more lift (1,466 kg / 3,232 lb) than the Fiat 1580 (DT) (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 1580 (DT) is 21% heavier (1,140 kg / 2,513 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Fiat 1580 (DT) has 11% higher maximum permissible mass (1,000 kg / 2,205 lb) than the Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 3655 (A) is newer: production began 11 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on PTO independence: every PTO is independent.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 1580 (DT) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 3655 (A) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power and a creeper range.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources