Fendt Favorit 824 LSE or Massey Ferguson MF 8170 A?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Favorit 824 LSE has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8170 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Massey Ferguson 8170A suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 16% (16.2 L/min / 4.3 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “similar machines”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Favorit 824 LSE | MF 8170 A | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 169 kW (227 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 169.3 kW (227.0 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Favorit 824 LSE has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8170 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Favorit 824 LSE and the MF 8170 A. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Favorit 824 LSE and the MF 8170 A. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 102.0 L/min (26.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 118.2 L/min (31.2 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 8170A has 16% more hydraulic flow (16.2 L/min / 4.3 gpm) than the Fendt Favorit 824 LSE (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 9,180 kg (20,238 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 9,900 kg (21,826 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the Favorit 824 LSE: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824”); the MF 8170 A: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 7,800 kg (17,196 lb) to 8,250 kg (18,188 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 9,740 kg (21,473 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 8170A is 18% heavier (1,490 kg / 3,285 lb) than the Fendt Favorit 824 LSE (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 12,000 kg (26,455 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 15,500 kg (34,172 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | AheadThe Massey Ferguson 8170A has 29% higher maximum permissible mass (3,500 kg / 7,716 lb) than the Fendt Favorit 824 LSE (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | — | 18Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | No figureNo call on forward gears: no figure on record for the Favorit 824 LSE. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the MF 8170 A. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | AheadThe Fendt Favorit 824 LSE has 25% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the Massey Ferguson 8170A (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 540/540E/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | EvenEven on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Favorit 824 LSE. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1993–2004 | 1998–1999 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Massey Ferguson 8170A is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Massey Ferguson 8170A has 16% more hydraulic flow (16.2 L/min / 4.3 gpm) than the Fendt Favorit 824 LSE (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 8170A is 18% heavier (1,490 kg / 3,285 lb) than the Fendt Favorit 824 LSE (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 8170A has 29% higher maximum permissible mass (3,500 kg / 7,716 lb) than the Fendt Favorit 824 LSE (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt Favorit 824 LSE has 25% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the Massey Ferguson 8170A (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Massey Ferguson 8170A is newer: production began 5 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on PTO speeds: the same speeds (540, 1000 rpm).
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Favorit 824 LSE has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the MF 8170 A has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the Favorit 824 LSE: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Favorit 824”); the MF 8170 A: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Massey Ferguson MF 8170”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, forward gears, a creeper range and PTO independence.
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