Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA or Renault 651 (S)?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the Farmer 5 S/SA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 651 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 41% (10.6 L/min / 2.8 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA suits heavy draft work (ploughing, cultivating) better on this data: 10% (275 kg / 606 lb) heavier and four-wheel drive.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | Farmer 5 S/SA | 651 (S) | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 47.6 kW (63.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 47.8 kW (64.1 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Farmer 5 S/SA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 651 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the Farmer 5 S/SA and the 651 (S). |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the Farmer 5 S/SA and the 651 (S). |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 36.6 L/min (9.7 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 26.0 L/min (6.9 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | AheadThe Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA has 41% more hydraulic flow (10.6 L/min / 2.8 gpm) than the Renault 651 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 2,200 kg (4,850 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 2,240 kg (4,938 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | EvenEven on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 2,945 kg (6,493 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 2,670 kg (5,886 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA is 10% heavier (275 kg / 606 lb) than the Renault 651 (S) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source). |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | — | No figureNo call on maximum permissible mass: no figure on record for the 651 (S). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | 13Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 12Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | EvenEven on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | YesTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the Farmer 5 S/SA. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 20 km/h (12.4 mph) to 30 km/h (18.6 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 25 km/h (15.5 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | EvenEven on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap. |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540/1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 540 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | AheadThe Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Renault 651 (S) does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the Farmer 5 S/SA. |
| Which drives on both axles? | Two-wheel or four-wheel driveTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA” | 2WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 651 R7461” | AheadThe Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 651 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources). |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 1970–1972 | 1972–1986 | EvenSame era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA has 41% more hydraulic flow (10.6 L/min / 2.8 gpm) than the Renault 651 (S) (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA is 10% heavier (275 kg / 606 lb) than the Renault 651 (S) (both unladen weight, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA offers 1000 rpm at the PTO, which the Renault 651 (S) does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Fendt Farmer 5 S/SA is available with four-wheel drive; the Renault 651 (S) is two-wheel drive (as stated by the sources).
- Even on three-point lift (both lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on forward gears (both forward gears, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 25% threshold, too small to call.
- Even on top speed (both top speed forward, as stated by the source): the figures vary by configuration and the ranges overlap.
- Same era: production began within 5 years of each other. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the Farmer 5 S/SA has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 651 (S) has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, maximum permissible mass, a creeper range and PTO independence.
← Every figure for both machines, side by side, with sources