Fendt 817 Vario-TMS or Renault 175-74 TZ?
Which should you choose?
The data can’t decide this. Power at the PTO shaft cannot be compared: the 817 Vario-TMS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 175-74 TZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS suits loader and hydraulic implement work better on this data: 80% (49.0 L/min / 12.9 gpm) more hydraulic flow.
- The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS suits road haulage better on this data: 36% (3,300 kg / 7,275 lb) more maximum permissible mass and 25% (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) more top speed.
Generated by rule set compare@4 from the figures on the side-by-side table, allowed by route “the same stated configuration”. Measured figures are compared only with measured, claimed only with claimed, at the same test condition; differences within each figure’s tolerance are not called.
What decides it, question by question?
| Question | 817 Vario-TMS | 175-74 TZ | Call |
|---|---|---|---|
| Which puts more power through the PTO shaft? | 121 kW (162 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 121.4 kW (162.8 hp)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | Not comparableNot comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 817 Vario-TMS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 175-74 TZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft. |
| Which turns a litre of fuel into more work at the shaft? | — | — | No figureNo call on fuel efficiency at the shaft: no figure on record for the 817 Vario-TMS and the 175-74 TZ. |
| Which pulls harder at the drawbar? | — | — | No figureNo call on drawbar power: no figure on record for the 817 Vario-TMS and the 175-74 TZ. |
| Which pumps more oil for implements? | 110.0 L/min (29.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 61.0 L/min (16.1 gpm)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | AheadThe Fendt 817 Vario-TMS has 80% more hydraulic flow (49.0 L/min / 12.9 gpm) than the Renault 175-74 TZ (both pump flow, as stated by the source). |
| Which lifts more on the three-point hitch? | 9,255 kg (20,404 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 9,380 kg (20,679 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | Not comparableNot comparable on three-point lift: the 817 Vario-TMS: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario”); the 175-74 TZ: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition. |
| Which is heavier, for traction? | 6,650 kg (14,661 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 6,220 kg (13,713 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | EvenEven on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call. |
| Which may carry more ballast and load? | 12,500 kg (27,558 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 9,200 kg (20,283 lb)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | AheadThe Fendt 817 Vario-TMS has 36% higher maximum permissible mass (3,300 kg / 7,275 lb) than the Renault 175-74 TZ (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source). |
| Which has the wider choice of gears? | Stepless (CVT)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 24 forwardTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | DifferTransmissions differ in kind: the Fendt 817 Vario-TMS is stepless (CVT) and the Renault 175-74 TZ has 24 forward gears — not called. |
| Which offers a creeper range? | — | — | No figureNo call on a creeper range: not stated for the 817 Vario-TMS and the 175-74 TZ. |
| Which is faster on the road? | 50 km/h (31.1 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 30 km/h (18.6 mph) to 40 km/h (24.9 mph)Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | AheadThe Fendt 817 Vario-TMS has 25% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the Renault 175-74 TZ (both top speed forward, as stated by the source). |
| Which offers more PTO speeds? | 540 rpm / 750 rpm / 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 1000 rpmTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | AheadThe Fendt 817 Vario-TMS offers 540 and 750 rpm at the PTO, which the Renault 175-74 TZ does not (as stated by the sources). |
| Which PTO runs independently of the ground drive? | — | independentTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | No figureNo call on PTO independence: not stated for the 817 Vario-TMS. |
| Which drives on both axles? | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario” | 4WDTraktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852” | EvenEven on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive. |
| Which is newer, and what about parts? | 2003–2009 | 1989–1992 | Ahead (a fact, not an advantage)The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts. |
What does this mean in plain words?
- The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS has 80% more hydraulic flow (49.0 L/min / 12.9 gpm) than the Renault 175-74 TZ (both pump flow, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS has 36% higher maximum permissible mass (3,300 kg / 7,275 lb) than the Renault 175-74 TZ (both maximum permissible mass, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS has 25% more top speed (10.0 km/h / 6.2 mph) than the Renault 175-74 TZ (both top speed forward, as stated by the source).
- The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS offers 540 and 750 rpm at the PTO, which the Renault 175-74 TZ does not (as stated by the sources).
- The Fendt 817 Vario-TMS is newer: production began 14 years later. We hold no parts-availability data, so there is no call on parts.
- Even on weight (both unladen weight, as stated by the source): the difference is under the 10% threshold, too small to call.
- Transmissions differ in kind: the Fendt 817 Vario-TMS is stepless (CVT) and the Renault 175-74 TZ has 24 forward gears — not called.
- Even on drive: every machine is available with four-wheel drive.
- Not comparable on power at the PTO shaft: the 817 Vario-TMS has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft; the 175-74 TZ has only engine power (gross or net not stated), claimed — a different quantity from power at the shaft.
- Not comparable on three-point lift: the 817 Vario-TMS: lift at an unstated point, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Fendt 817 Vario”); the 175-74 TZ: lift at the hitch ends, as stated by the source (Traktorenlexikon, “Renault 175-74 TZ R3852”) — not the same quantity, basis and condition.
- No figure on record for every machine, so no call on: fuel efficiency at the shaft, drawbar power, a creeper range and PTO independence.
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